desi3933
05-11 05:16 PM
we are talking about inclusion logic here. Not the exclusion logic.
I do see in sec 203 how some one becomes eligible for "eb quota". I dont see ebdependents there. I see only eb primary.
I am sorry, I am not interested to carry this debate forward for the fun of debating. I strongly urge you to read sec 203. Thanks for understanding.
Read for yourself.
INA 203(d) Treatment of family members
A spouse or child as defined in subparagraph (A), (B), (C), (D), or (E) of section 1101(b)(1) of this title shall, if not otherwise entitled to an immigrant status and the immediate issuance of a visa under subsection (a), (b), or (c) of this section, be entitled to the same status, and the same order of consideration provided in the respective subsection, if accompanying or following to join, the spouse or parent.
This means that if primary beneficiary is using visa number from EB(2) classification then dependent(s) will also be using same classification as primary beneficiary (i.e. EB(2) in this example).
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US citizen of Indian origin
I do see in sec 203 how some one becomes eligible for "eb quota". I dont see ebdependents there. I see only eb primary.
I am sorry, I am not interested to carry this debate forward for the fun of debating. I strongly urge you to read sec 203. Thanks for understanding.
Read for yourself.
INA 203(d) Treatment of family members
A spouse or child as defined in subparagraph (A), (B), (C), (D), or (E) of section 1101(b)(1) of this title shall, if not otherwise entitled to an immigrant status and the immediate issuance of a visa under subsection (a), (b), or (c) of this section, be entitled to the same status, and the same order of consideration provided in the respective subsection, if accompanying or following to join, the spouse or parent.
This means that if primary beneficiary is using visa number from EB(2) classification then dependent(s) will also be using same classification as primary beneficiary (i.e. EB(2) in this example).
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US citizen of Indian origin
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SleeplessinSeatle
08-02 10:26 AM
My case was received by NSC on Jun 25th. No word yet. My I-140 is from Texas. Very worrying situation,
Rohan99
10-12 12:42 PM
Whatever bluesky1 said is true...finally they opened our box. Today I called and rep gave me only I-485 receipt number and told me to wait for mail. USCIS likes everyone to wait for every thing......I have no more information but as soon as I get mail I will post all the info.
3rd july people should call now and I am definite we all were sitting in same box.
What a painful 100 days it was..................hopefully everything is correct on receipt...wait again and see.....
Receipt is from NSC
I got some good news. I called uscis just now and got two receipt numbers, one for 485 and one for EAD. Checks not cashed yet. I don't have the receipt number for AP yet. So it seems that our box is not lost and they're processing them, though so slowly. My application arrived on 7/3 at NSC, received by R. William at 9:03am.
Hope every one of us will receive our receipts, EAD and AP asap.
3rd july people should call now and I am definite we all were sitting in same box.
What a painful 100 days it was..................hopefully everything is correct on receipt...wait again and see.....
Receipt is from NSC
I got some good news. I called uscis just now and got two receipt numbers, one for 485 and one for EAD. Checks not cashed yet. I don't have the receipt number for AP yet. So it seems that our box is not lost and they're processing them, though so slowly. My application arrived on 7/3 at NSC, received by R. William at 9:03am.
Hope every one of us will receive our receipts, EAD and AP asap.
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abq_gc
08-18 03:00 PM
you manage people with a stick ?? :)
All we are asking is to support some kind of action against the USCIS...
we just need to mobilize ourselves... this is not a fight for EB-2 or EB-3... but for the whole legal immigration system... let's just do something
we are looking at specific situations where the legal immigrant community was affected... and right now its the non sequential processing of the applications for EB-2...
for EB-3 we will need to make similar points which we can raise with Ombudsman or some other authority... we just need to find instances where people were affected... for example delays in EAD.. and that is for EB-2 and EB-3
All we are asking is to support some kind of action against the USCIS...
we just need to mobilize ourselves... this is not a fight for EB-2 or EB-3... but for the whole legal immigration system... let's just do something
we are looking at specific situations where the legal immigrant community was affected... and right now its the non sequential processing of the applications for EB-2...
for EB-3 we will need to make similar points which we can raise with Ombudsman or some other authority... we just need to find instances where people were affected... for example delays in EAD.. and that is for EB-2 and EB-3
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pani_6
07-27 11:17 AM
I was looking at the comments of one "sodepressed" in the Ron gothcer's forum..I am feeling really bad for this guy..I dont know what logic USCIS follows..but I assure you EB-3 I will fight for fair share and get it..with in 140 K numbers or thro Visa recapture #'s..first is to highlight our problems..so lets do it in creative ways...
EB-3 I I can see we progressing very soon..lets send out those letters..
:)
LEGAL AND STUCK IN - 7 YRS. ILLEGAL AND SNUCK IN - 7 MINS. CHOOSE!
It is a fact that EB3 India is a FORGOTTEN category. There appears to be a sense of intra-category elitism within the larger community that comes together at IV. EB3 I's make feeble attempts to be heard and some take a shot at innovative marketing campaigns to call attention to the plight of being stuck for over 6 ot 7 years in some cases. EB2 I's immediately respond with a self protectionist attitude and preach a higher calling that focuses on comprehensive solutions instead of piecemeal solutions. EB1 I's obviously choose to remain outside the fray, since these are matter of concern to vox populi, not them.
Some EB2's and EB3's then analyse the hell out of USCIS logic, to the extent that they could become full time spin meisters for ANY public organization. With very little fact, a healthy dose of opinion and a mish mash of 'logic', they piece together their 'strong' arguments -one way or the other.
Lost in this useless din of irrelevant analysis paralysis is the real misery of thousands of EB3 I's (such as myself) that have been stuck for years for no fault of ours. By the way, I happen to be a highly educated (for those that care) Executive that went to Top Private Universities in the US that happens to be stuck in EB3 ONLY because the company HR rep and lawyer at the time, chose to go down this path. POint being, there is no reason for EB2 I's to pontificate from a sense of elitist protectionism because there are EB3 I's like me that can outsmart a bunch of you in no time. Seriously. (This is for those that preach that if you are 'smart' you should be in EB2. Go read those threads).
So bottomline, let us stop behaving like CIS vs Anti CIS camps and instead UNITE towards the common cause. Let EB3I's air their frustrations. If you can come to help, do so. If not, stay out of it completely. No more half ass 'logic', please.
Thanks!
EB-3 I I can see we progressing very soon..lets send out those letters..
:)
LEGAL AND STUCK IN - 7 YRS. ILLEGAL AND SNUCK IN - 7 MINS. CHOOSE!
It is a fact that EB3 India is a FORGOTTEN category. There appears to be a sense of intra-category elitism within the larger community that comes together at IV. EB3 I's make feeble attempts to be heard and some take a shot at innovative marketing campaigns to call attention to the plight of being stuck for over 6 ot 7 years in some cases. EB2 I's immediately respond with a self protectionist attitude and preach a higher calling that focuses on comprehensive solutions instead of piecemeal solutions. EB1 I's obviously choose to remain outside the fray, since these are matter of concern to vox populi, not them.
Some EB2's and EB3's then analyse the hell out of USCIS logic, to the extent that they could become full time spin meisters for ANY public organization. With very little fact, a healthy dose of opinion and a mish mash of 'logic', they piece together their 'strong' arguments -one way or the other.
Lost in this useless din of irrelevant analysis paralysis is the real misery of thousands of EB3 I's (such as myself) that have been stuck for years for no fault of ours. By the way, I happen to be a highly educated (for those that care) Executive that went to Top Private Universities in the US that happens to be stuck in EB3 ONLY because the company HR rep and lawyer at the time, chose to go down this path. POint being, there is no reason for EB2 I's to pontificate from a sense of elitist protectionism because there are EB3 I's like me that can outsmart a bunch of you in no time. Seriously. (This is for those that preach that if you are 'smart' you should be in EB2. Go read those threads).
So bottomline, let us stop behaving like CIS vs Anti CIS camps and instead UNITE towards the common cause. Let EB3I's air their frustrations. If you can come to help, do so. If not, stay out of it completely. No more half ass 'logic', please.
Thanks!
omved
08-31 06:23 PM
Guys !! Enough of this multidirectional Indians...Should we start the thread for September Approval..Could someone please...
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yabadaba
03-09 12:40 PM
another story:
i have a close friend who has been here since 1991 with no GC. he came for his undergraduate studies in 1991..finished that...got a good job...met a girl...got married...girl was also an undergrad here then went to grad school...then lost his job..girl was still in school...lost almost everything
then he built his life back..got a job....started working his way up...girl graduated..worked in a small company and then changed jobs..started gc process for the 3rd time...luckily got ead and ap....girl changed jobs...bought a house...retrogression happened....and hes still waiting
can u beat that...hes been here for 16 years.
putting off decisions is very easy when it comes to gc...many times u just need to bite the bullet and live ur life. dont get me wrong.. i have put off getting my h1b stamped for over 3 yrs...havent been out of the country for 5 yrs...now i have decided its not worth it and will do it sometime this yr.
like russell peter's chinese person says "be a man...do the right thing"
i have a close friend who has been here since 1991 with no GC. he came for his undergraduate studies in 1991..finished that...got a good job...met a girl...got married...girl was also an undergrad here then went to grad school...then lost his job..girl was still in school...lost almost everything
then he built his life back..got a job....started working his way up...girl graduated..worked in a small company and then changed jobs..started gc process for the 3rd time...luckily got ead and ap....girl changed jobs...bought a house...retrogression happened....and hes still waiting
can u beat that...hes been here for 16 years.
putting off decisions is very easy when it comes to gc...many times u just need to bite the bullet and live ur life. dont get me wrong.. i have put off getting my h1b stamped for over 3 yrs...havent been out of the country for 5 yrs...now i have decided its not worth it and will do it sometime this yr.
like russell peter's chinese person says "be a man...do the right thing"
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vban2007
06-01 04:41 PM
Sent email... Thanks again
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gcisadawg
03-06 05:56 PM
I did not want to respond you but here's what can be achieved by lifting the country caps even for 2 years. If you lift the country cap, oldest PDs get the green Cards irrespective of their country, considering it's Indians & Chinese who are stuck the most, believe it or not, India will get all of 140K Visas, you can easily expect India and china to come at par with ROW, I know with your intelligence level, it is hard for you to understand, but if you are in a line, you are always going to get benefited if more people before you get eliminated fom the queue...
dude,
you may want to think twice before questioning kunju's intelligence level.
he is just awesome, but in the other direction! :D
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dude,
you may want to think twice before questioning kunju's intelligence level.
he is just awesome, but in the other direction! :D
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qasleuth
02-12 03:52 PM
So both you and the other guy "qasleuth" have decided not to present any real reasons or arguments to support why I should not advise people to be ethically and morally responsible, but instead go after me to prove that I am somehow also morally corrupt like you guys are.
You want to bring in refugees from Siberia or where ever into this discussion just to dilute the real topic of the thread. You are no better than any politician for that matter.
That "qasleuth" has also not answered my question as to where and when I claimed that I am trying to pretend I have better standards than the next person on this forum or anywhere.
Since the two of you don't have answers to these questions of mine, I rest my case until that!
You have reading comprehension issues as well...if you get over yourself then you can comprehend things (let me be clear, I am referring here to my own posts and none of the other ones). You made your point on page 2 about the moral/ethical/legal perils of what the OP has done/proposing to do. You were fine with me. Continuously pointing out at other people as to how morally bankrupt they are (including your latest post) or how bad there comm skills are (written or otherwise) will certainly expose you to shots from others (like me). When you continuously point out others' morals then the presumption here is that you are squeaky clean. I pointed out, you are not. That is all. It does not mean, OPs post is morally/ethically/legally on the right side or I hold that opinion (actually I do not).
You want to bring in refugees from Siberia or where ever into this discussion just to dilute the real topic of the thread. You are no better than any politician for that matter.
That "qasleuth" has also not answered my question as to where and when I claimed that I am trying to pretend I have better standards than the next person on this forum or anywhere.
Since the two of you don't have answers to these questions of mine, I rest my case until that!
You have reading comprehension issues as well...if you get over yourself then you can comprehend things (let me be clear, I am referring here to my own posts and none of the other ones). You made your point on page 2 about the moral/ethical/legal perils of what the OP has done/proposing to do. You were fine with me. Continuously pointing out at other people as to how morally bankrupt they are (including your latest post) or how bad there comm skills are (written or otherwise) will certainly expose you to shots from others (like me). When you continuously point out others' morals then the presumption here is that you are squeaky clean. I pointed out, you are not. That is all. It does not mean, OPs post is morally/ethically/legally on the right side or I hold that opinion (actually I do not).
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alias
08-18 02:35 PM
This is weird... It does'nt look like you are joking, so are you are indirectly demanding and taunting a Mr anonymous to take some action?
action from which you will benefit directly and is also something which you feel strongly about but will not do anything by yourself? :eek:
I am joking 100%
action from which you will benefit directly and is also something which you feel strongly about but will not do anything by yourself? :eek:
I am joking 100%
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sravani
05-11 04:49 PM
I knew one of my friends on H1-B started an LLC, sponsored his wife H1 and now his wife is maintaining the company.
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vishage
09-28 03:48 PM
Did you noticed any LUD before check cashing as you got receipt from california. I filed on July 20 and no news yet.
Hi chunky,
I had mailed the application on 24th july to NSC, has a lud on TSC approved 140 on 28th , Do you kow wht it means,Thank you for your reply.
Hi chunky,
I had mailed the application on 24th july to NSC, has a lud on TSC approved 140 on 28th , Do you kow wht it means,Thank you for your reply.
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Hewa
11-17 04:10 PM
+1, plus friends
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bmoni
05-01 01:08 PM
Did any one discussed this with an attorney. May be a conference call with Mr. Rajiv Khanna ? Can anyone from IV core member respond what is their take on such a class action. Will we have the support from IV if such lawsuit is filled.
Again i strongly believe our only way out of this mess especially for EB3 India is lawsuit.
Again i strongly believe our only way out of this mess especially for EB3 India is lawsuit.
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reddymjm
06-12 01:55 PM
It takes 90 days MINIMUM to get EAD? I've heard that it takes at most 90 days to get EAD. Does anyone know?
used to be at most 90 days. If not u could have gone to ur local office and get temp EAD. It changed no more temp EAD. You r at the mercy of USCIS.
used to be at most 90 days. If not u could have gone to ur local office and get temp EAD. It changed no more temp EAD. You r at the mercy of USCIS.
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gk_2000
02-17 03:05 PM
Well, it goes beyond that. This is a "complicated story with no sub titles".
IV website is a board where people of all kinds visit and there is no control over stuff. Just go to any blog site - we see 100 rants and crazy comments as against a few wise talk.
I guess we have to live with it and keep pushing people. Sometimes loud and sometimes gently.
My friend, it is to "push the people" that I am saying all this. How best can we push? Through word of mouth, or thru full campaign?
Another idea: How about restructuring the forums?
In the home page, we promote only those discussions that are important to all, like advocacy.
In next tab, we take on the discussions that are based on individual problems
And all else, can go to the third tab
Also on home page, the following items (just some examples of general interest matter):
- Advocacy day. Donations received vs required.
- Big red button: Donate
- Some links to recent news items on immigration
Home page should have text content that introduces IV, its activities, and a small lecture on why skilled immigration is important
IV website is a board where people of all kinds visit and there is no control over stuff. Just go to any blog site - we see 100 rants and crazy comments as against a few wise talk.
I guess we have to live with it and keep pushing people. Sometimes loud and sometimes gently.
My friend, it is to "push the people" that I am saying all this. How best can we push? Through word of mouth, or thru full campaign?
Another idea: How about restructuring the forums?
In the home page, we promote only those discussions that are important to all, like advocacy.
In next tab, we take on the discussions that are based on individual problems
And all else, can go to the third tab
Also on home page, the following items (just some examples of general interest matter):
- Advocacy day. Donations received vs required.
- Big red button: Donate
- Some links to recent news items on immigration
Home page should have text content that introduces IV, its activities, and a small lecture on why skilled immigration is important
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scorpion00
11-17 05:24 PM
Done
Please contact members of congress by clicking on the action alert below.
It will only take less than a minute for you. We are requesting adding amendments in the DREAM Act coming up. This campaign will help the DC advocacy work we are doing on this bill.
ImmigrationVoice.org - Advocacy -- DREAM Act: Help the Legal Immigrants (http://immigrationvoice.capwiz.com/immigrationvoice/issues/alert/?alertid=19787501)
Please spread the word everywhere for more participation
Please post on this thread once you have sent the email. Keep this thread up for the next few days.
Please contact members of congress by clicking on the action alert below.
It will only take less than a minute for you. We are requesting adding amendments in the DREAM Act coming up. This campaign will help the DC advocacy work we are doing on this bill.
ImmigrationVoice.org - Advocacy -- DREAM Act: Help the Legal Immigrants (http://immigrationvoice.capwiz.com/immigrationvoice/issues/alert/?alertid=19787501)
Please spread the word everywhere for more participation
Please post on this thread once you have sent the email. Keep this thread up for the next few days.
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gsc999
07-06 07:09 PM
Legal Immigrants Protest at San Jose on July 7
Location: City Hall
200 E Santa Clara St
San Jose, CA Yahoo Google Map
When: From Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:00 am to Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:30 pm
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I just checked with the city, and San Jose police dept. they don't know about this event and haven't issued any permit for it. Fightnow, since you originated this thread, please post relevant info. as to who is organizing it.
Arun Antonia, do you want to coordinate this event for next week?
The Police dept. said that as long as the traffic and pedestrian sidewalk are not blocked and there is no violence it is ok with them. Now only if I know who will issue the permit, that should do it.
Location: City Hall
200 E Santa Clara St
San Jose, CA Yahoo Google Map
When: From Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:00 am to Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:30 pm
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I just checked with the city, and San Jose police dept. they don't know about this event and haven't issued any permit for it. Fightnow, since you originated this thread, please post relevant info. as to who is organizing it.
Arun Antonia, do you want to coordinate this event for next week?
The Police dept. said that as long as the traffic and pedestrian sidewalk are not blocked and there is no violence it is ok with them. Now only if I know who will issue the permit, that should do it.
minimalist
08-18 02:05 PM
My reaction would have been the same if you were in Eb1 category. The fact is that I am trying to mobilize some people to get few things done. Of course, motivated by my self interest.
I was against SunnySurya's porting agenda and still am. But the current issue he is taking up is a genuine one. There should be a reasonable processing expectation that the earlier the PD the sooner the GC,with all other things (like category)being equal.
However eb3_nepa has a valid point too that you can't expect to utilize core's time/energy.
In my opinion, SunnySurya is going in right direction championing this cause.
All the best.
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EB3 -I , May 2006
Contribution $100
I was against SunnySurya's porting agenda and still am. But the current issue he is taking up is a genuine one. There should be a reasonable processing expectation that the earlier the PD the sooner the GC,with all other things (like category)being equal.
However eb3_nepa has a valid point too that you can't expect to utilize core's time/energy.
In my opinion, SunnySurya is going in right direction championing this cause.
All the best.
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EB3 -I , May 2006
Contribution $100
mita
08-11 11:02 AM
Guys,
Let us update any developments so that it might help others to know the chain of updates after receiving the magic e-mail.
Mita
Same exact sequence of events happened to me. I am sure we will have our cards this week God willingly.
Let us update any developments so that it might help others to know the chain of updates after receiving the magic e-mail.
Mita
Same exact sequence of events happened to me. I am sure we will have our cards this week God willingly.
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